TRIP 412

Cumbria & Lancashire

20-21/10/07

DAY ONE

EWS, Bescot Yard (viewed from M6 motorway) 

67011. Network Rail Wagons; 501020/079/101/277.

DRS, Crewe Gresty Bridge Depot (view) 

08834, 37510, 66417/425.

Freightliner, Crewe Basford Hall Yard (view) 

47150, 57002, 66538/570, 86612/613/621, 90043.

Threlkeld Quarry & Mining Museum, Threlkeld (visit) 

Preserved Steam Loco: 2ft 6" Gauge; "Sir Tom" - WB 2135/25 reb Threlkeld 2006. Preserved Diesel Locos: 3ft 2" Gauge; RH 320573/51 (frame only). 2ft 6" Gauge; HE 2254/40 (ex p.224), 8 - HE 8830/79, 11 - HE 8968/80, (10) - HE 8966/80. 2ft Gauge; HE 3149/45 (ex p.224), (Glasson) - MR 8627/41, 001 - RH 444208/61, HC D752/49 (ex p.224), MR 40S383/71 (ex p.259), "Mavis" - RH 7002/0967/6 built 1967, U/I 20DL RH Dsm (either 217993/43 or 223744/44), MR 8860/44, MR 8937/44 (in Turquoise), HE 3595/48, MR 7522/48 (assumed, partly dismantled), LB 52885/62, RH 497760/63, R6 - RH 221626/43, ND6440 - RH 242918/47, U/I 4wDM MR (frame only, see notes below). Preserved Petrol Locos: 2ft Gauge; "Old Hague" - FH 3465/54, (173) - Bredbury/c54, 8 - KC/c26, 89 - MR 4565/28. Preserved Battery Electric Locos: 2ft 6" Gauge; 4/83 - BV 608/71 OOU, 46 - BV 609/71 OOU, 48 - BV 610/71 OOU. 2ft Gauge; "Llechwedd" - U/I WR (ex p.292, either C6765/63 or C6766/63, in Red), U/I WR OOU (ex p.292, either C6765/63 or C6766/63, in yellow), 7 "Tamar" - U/I WR, CE B0475/75 OOU, (7) - CE B1854/79, CE B0495/75.

Threlkeld Quarry & Mining Museum, Bramcrag Quarry (visit) 

Preserved Diesel Locos: 2ft Gauge; 1 - MR 8698/41 Dsm, 3 - MR 7191/37 Dsm.

Threlkeld Quarry & Mining Museum, Hilltop Quarry (visit) 

Preserved Diesel Locos: 2ft 6" Gauge; ND3056 - HE 2267/40 Dsm, HE 2248/40 Dsm. 2ft Gauge; U/I 20 DL RH Dsm (either 217993/43 or 223744/44). 

Notes on Museum; 

1) The U/I 4wDM MR frame only seen at the Threlkeld site was ex Ian Hughes of Callendar. It was either 9846/52 or 22237/65 as one of these was not accounted for. Investigations are ongoing into the true identity of the frame seen and the status of the one missing. 

2) Lister 3834 has gone to the Apedale Heritage Centre, Staffordshire.

Keswick Mining Museum, Keswick (visit) 

Preserved Battery Electric Loco: 2ft Gauge; 8 - WR P7624/75 Assumed.

Blennerhasset Watermill, near Aspatria (view) 

Preserved Diesel Locos: 2ft Gauge; RH 273525/49 (ex p.259, assumed). Preserved Battery Electric Loco: 2ft Gauge; WR 4149/49 reb ShepherdFG assumed. 

Notes; 

1) After a huge effort to contact the owner of the Mill (Andrew Curle) to arrange a visit drew a blank, it was hoped to catch him home on the day. This also proved unsuccessful. Therefore the above locos were viewed from distance and assumed. 

2) Previous visit reports stated that 2 other locos were present inside the shed. This was not confirmed by our party.

Alan Lightfoot Plant Services, Wigton 

The party arrived at the address of this company to find no sign of any Rail Plant equipment. It retrospectively came to light that this was the administrative headquarters only with the Rail Plant being kept at a site in nearby Kirkbride.

DRS, Carlisle Kingmoor Depot (view) 

37609, 47802, 66401/402/409/415/424/426/428. Passing; 66056.

DAY TWO

DRS, Carlisle Kingmoor Depot (view) 

37609, 47802, 66401/402/405/409/415/426/428. Coaches; 9419/428.

W.A. Developments, Carlisle Depot (visit) 

Road/Rail; W075 - Colmar T10000FS 7227/02, W043 - Colmar T10000FS 7167/01, W088 - Colmar T10000FS 7387/03, R 879 WHH "Wordsworth" W007 - Barford Dumper SXR8009/SRHK0609 built 1997, W061 - Unimog U1650 1953121, W110 - John Deere Gator 030472. Trailer; W141 - Chieftain RT1039/06.

William Sinclair Horticulture, Bolton Fell (visit) 

Industrial Diesel Locos: 2ft Gauge; "Eden" - MR 20058/49, "Liddel" - MR 7188/37, UTMDA 87032 - MR 40S412/73, RH 283508 reb AK 20R/86 OOU (see note below), "Esk" - MR 7498/40, "Sark" - MR 8825/43, "Gelt" - MR 8696/41, SO39 - MR 7190/37, AK 26/88, UTMDA 87025 L201N - MR 22238/65, "Lyne" - MR 7037/36, "Irthing" - MR 8655/41. 

Notes: 

1) The party would like to thank Jimmy Wright for arranging and hosting this visit. 

2) 14EL states the RH to be 283513/49. However 283508 was stamped on it's underframe. Investigations are ongoing into it's true identity.

Appleby Heritage Centre, Appleby (visit) 

Preserved Steam Loco: 4ft 8" Gauge; 4979 (Wotton Hall) - Sdn/30 (ex p.119). Preserved Carriages: Taff Vale; 73 (Body only). North London; U/I 4 wheel Birdcage Full Brake (Body only). BR Mark 1; 96138 (GUV 86749), 96141 (GUV 86753), 96179 (GUV 86910), 96169 (GUV 86937). BR Mark 2; 3357 assumed, 5159 assumed, 5173 assumed. 

Notes: 

1) Taff Vale No 73 is being restored for the Swindon & Cricklade Railway. It is still awaiting an underframe to be delivered. 

2) LNER Wagon E75302 was also present. The underframe of this wagon is allocated to be used under The North London Birdcage Body. However this underframe is too long and would need some modification. This will now therefore be a more longer term project than first expected.

Appleby Station 

DMU; 156475.

Stainmore Railway, Kirkby Stephen East (visit) 

Preserved Steam Locos: 4ft 8" Gauge; "F.G.Tingey" - P 2084/48 (ex p.255). Preserved Diesel Locos: 4ft 8" Gauge; 305 - YE 2952/65 (ex p.45), 20169 - EE 3640/66 + VF D1039/66, 31410 - BT 269/60, 47785 - BT 671/65 (ex EWS), 37674 - EE 3347/63 + VF D833/63 (ex EWS), 37146 - EE 3321/63 + VF D820/63 (ex EWS), FH 3958/61. Preserved Carriages: SR; 207. LMS; 31148. GNR; 1798. LNER; 1852, 3857, 4163, 99054 (RB 24287), 60505. Steam Crane; No.53 - Coles 15436. 

Notes: 

1) LNER 3857 (DE320946) was quoted in many Departmental publications as being 3849. However recent investigations made by the Railway and other researchers have revealed 3857 as it's original identity. 

2) LNER 4163 arrived from the North Tyneside Museum, Newcastle earlier in 2007. 3) The IRS Crane list states the works number of Coles crane No.53 as 15439. However the underframe was carrying a plate clearly stamped as 15436.

Network Rail, Tebay Depot (view) 

Road/Rail; GN51 MBV - SRS/Leyland Daf 45, DX54 SRZ - SRS/Volvo FL6E.

West Lancs Light Railway, Hesketh Bank (visit) 

Preserved Steam Locos: 2ft Gauge; No.3 "Irish Mail" - HE 823/03 (in steam), "Tattoo" - KS 2395/17, No.21 "Utrillas" - OK 2378/07, Chrz 3506/57, Hen 14676/17 Dsm (Boiler off-site for rebuild), No.22 "Montalban" - OK 6641/13, KS 2405/15 (under restoration, boiler off-site), JF 15513/20 Dsm. Preserved Diesel Locos: 2ft Gauge; 31 "Mill Reef" - MR 7371/39, MR 8992/46, L 29890/46 Dsm (engine off-site for rebuild), 40 "Dame Vera Duckworth" - RH 381705/55, MR 11223/63, 12 - MR 11258/64, No.21 - HE 1963/39, "Tawd" - RH 222074/43, (Clwyd) - RH 264251/51, MR 5906/34 (ex p.96), RH 339105/53, HC DM 1393/67 Dsm (ex p.120), (16) - RH 202036/41 Dsm, HE 4478/53 (plate read 4480/53), 10 - FH 2555/46, No.5 - RH 200478/40, (Black Pig) - FH 3916/59, HC DM750/49, (Sampson) - FH 1887/34 (ex p.120), RH 297054/50, WLLR No.2 - MR 7955/45 Dsm (in use as a brake van). Preserved Petrol Loco: 2ft Gauge; L 10805/39, FH 1777/31, Bg 3002/37. Preserved Battery Electric Locos: 2ft Gauge; GB 1840/42 (in use). Preserved Wire Electric Loco: 2ft Gauge; "Welsh Pony" - BEV 640/26. 

Notes: 

1) The party would like to thank Paul Smith for arranging and hosting this visit. 

2) The party was informed that BV 613 & BV 692 have now left the neighbouring Henry Alty site for unknown location(s).

DRS, Crewe Gresty Bridge Depot (view) 

08834, 37510, 66417/425.

Freightliner, Crewe Basford Hall Yard (view) 

47150, 66538/573/574, 86609/622/637/639, 90044/048.